Just an update on the Big Tooth maple in my yard. Unfortunately, I didn't ask for any planting advise. Yup. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer. I have the trees planted in the corners of my back yard about 7 feet from the privacy fence and in the middle of the yard I have a Lacey Oak tree which is about 12 feet tall. I will also apply compost but might wait a bit before applying mulch. There are a lot of things that it can do for the soil while synthetic fertilizer can't. You can't go wrong there. Our favorite fertilizer is Osmocote and we always have it on hand in 3 lb. I've bought one from them a few months ago. And even though I was an arborist for 25 years in Boulder, I can only remember seeing one big specimen. Now the bag is in four equal pieces and can be easily removed from the rootball. But you are coming off a bit like a know it all. Shericucc: The couch is the bantam couch from DWR in Olive with dark legs. The trees were $39.95 each. So I think I will listen to the guy that has been raising these trees for 30-years. I put down a pre-emergent weed killer on my lawn about 2-weeks ago will that affect the trees negatively ? My little trees both have 6-9 inches of new growth on them since leafing out. PROBLEMS : Does not have many pests. Such collecting obviously has a much larger impact on the existing environment than does collecting seed, cuttings, or budwood. Organic fertilizer won't work too well for above ground containers as I am growing probably 100 seedlings of different trees in the containers. IF you decide to use a ceramic subway tile stay away from the 3x6 which has been way overdone. OPTIONAL - You can provide organic fertilizer directly on the compost if you want to. Weather condtions in the Hill Country northwest of San Antonio are more favorable for fall display, but this For trees in fiber bags, pull the tree up beside the hole, lean it over and cut a large “X” all the way across the bottom of the bag. 1) loosen dirt within 5 feet diameter. I did use Osmocote last year per instruction from Love Creek Nursery. After that, they pretty much get whatever they can get from dry organic fertilizer when I spread them all over the yard mainly because the root system have spread out. Id guess it took 4 years to get that size. If your lawn fertilizer is the typical amonium sulfate high nitrogen fert keep it away from the trees. I think it goes a long way to helping improve the soil biologically. For a Bigtooth Maple, big is 25���-30���, occasionally to 40���. It should be enough to feed microbes in the soil. The arborist at Love Creek Nursery has been growing these trees for 30 years and has 5,000 growing right now I think I will follow his advice. Slide the rootball into the hole and proceed as above. Canyon maple is a small- to medium-sized tree, reaching 30 to 40 feet in height and 10 inches in trunk diameter (I think it could get larger in cultivation). Choose a mid-tone if you don't care for the natural maple tones. I got about six inches of growth the first year; it was 3 feet at planting. Some brands can be grouted, making them look like a ceramic tile but much easier on the legs and also very durable. Last fall and spring, put a tree food spike close to the dripline, probably have gotten 2 feet growth from it. Cut away the exposed burlap in the top one-fourth of the hole. They will generally transplant better as smaller plants. If it's engineered it's unlikely you'll be able to stain it darker. Everything was going well until we had some significant rains this spring and early fall, which made us limit our standard watering. The range of colors in Bigtooth maple trees is astonishingly large. Any thoughts are welcome. So I went to Love Creek Nursery for a bag of their 8-9 month slow-release Osmocote the following Saturday (couldn't find to locally), and noticed that their operation certainly was not in some deep, cool, hill country canyon type micro-climate. You have to understand that the Lost Maple Forest has been there for a long time and the mulch they get is from leaves and dead trees that fall down enriching the soil over many years. If it does happen to be laminate---you cannot refinish it as others have already commented. here are some pics of big tooth maples in west texas took them hiking in the guadalupes. I used the Claw Garden tool for it. Its unremarkable spring flowers develop into the familiar 2-winged ���helicopter��� seed pods in the fall. Eventually, the soil will settle and sink to slightly higher than what it was before. 1-tree grew from 3 feet tall to right a 6 foot tall last year during the growing season and the caliper increased in diameter by close to 1/2 inch. It is located in Medina, not far from San Antonio to the west. All rights reserved. Usually only one or two things need to be beefed up, if that many; most commonly used fertilizer products have too many kinds of nutrients, often with some of them in too high amounts - especially if designed for use with heavily leached soil-less potting medium. Now slide it into the hole and check to be sure the depth is right. Strengths of Bigtooth Maple. Bigtooth maples do not seed every year. (Let grass grow tall, apply pellets, water them in, mow the next day). Chalk Maple. Distribute the fertilizer equally between the holes and then close the holes. Now slide it into the hole and check to be sure the depth is right. The weather conditions as fall approaches are a principal factor in the coloration of the trees. Two questions:1) Is our tree a goner? That's why mulch is used. I ended up talking to the owner (super nice guy) and told him my story. It's in proportion to your house and is the right style for a ranch like yours. if you replace rocks with topsoil use something close in texture to your native soil if possible (not a peat based potting soil) cheap topsoil is fine. Seeking advice on fireplace and mantle styling. Posted by SongofJoy (Clarksville, TN - Zone 6b) on Aug 31, 2014 6:45 AM. The mulch should cover the entire backfill area or extend 3 ft (91 cm) from the ��� For fertilizing established trees, the fertilizer must be applied to the feeder roots of the tree, which are usually under the tips of the branches, and deep enough below the soil surface to not be used up by competing plants (like grasses). I've got a damn nice looking back yard with some pretty kick ass trees in my opinion. I am new to the forum and new to Maple trees. Most of my shantung maple seedlings are ones I started in trays/pots. Performance wise, I give shantung maple a huge advantage over big tooth maple so far. One leafed out a bit stronger then the other one, by that I mean one tree's leaves developed more quickly then the other tree's leaves. I planted one that I ordered from Love Creek, only 3 feet... and it leafed out in late march, I think. Planting the wrong tree near any of these structures could cause problems with the structure itself and with the health of the tree. Now cut the sides of the bag all the way to the top from the tips of the “X” on the bottom. I kicked myself when I realized I should have called them earlier. Mulch right after planting. Don't dig deeper than the roots go at planting time. For trees in fiber bags, pull the tree up beside the hole, lean it over and cut a large ���X��� all the way across the bottom of the bag. It tolerates limestone soils well. Water thoroughly to remove any trapped air in the soil around the rootball. If your tree doesn't make it and you want to try another maple, I have a ton of shantung maple seedlings and could give you one (or more) for free. This tree gets sun from sun up to sun down but the caliper did not increase in diameter much if at all. The glass subway tiles for the kitchen splash will look fabulous. I am also thinking to get a Shantung maple in the fall from Metro maples, anyone have those? Even though this beautiful native tree is given an ���A��� rating in the Front Range Tree Recommendation List, two local arborists admitted that they hardly ever see one. A primary consideration, when planting under maple trees, is to not add more than about 2 or 3 inches of soil or mulch. I planted two Big Tooths about 7 years ago in Plano. As a comparision - Shantung Maple 'Fire Dragon' {{gwi:345677}}Fire Dragon. The good things about your house: Your window is large and attractive. 1.) In the meanwhile, spread compost around its root zone and apply alfalfa pellets at the rate of 20lbs per 1000 SQFT. I will have a few that pop up on their own but not too many. In short, great "bones". Last year it was 24 inches or so. I'd use osmocote to promote maximum growth. Maple trees (Acer spp.) I think I'm still going to move the roses that are next to the tree. They recommend fertilizing with Osmocote and basically digging a shallow whole and back filling with "field dirt" if there is not enough soil to backfill the hole that has been dug. The wider the mulch over long period of time the better... Grasses give off chemicals that stunt trees. The wider the hole the better, as far as the tree is concerned. For container growing, that is entirely different. I paid 200 for an 11 gallon several years ago, of course it was three times that size or more. Bigtooth maple shines as a specimen shade tree where soils are deep and it receives supplemental water, or in a cluster of smaller multitrunked trees for maximum punch for the fall color and the spring flowers and seeds. Figure 3. Just looking for help so I don't kill these beautiful little trees. most often little or none will be needed. © 2012 Maple Valley Company. They are odd on the big window. I dont remember, either one will do fine) and apply on the compost before mulching. How Often and How Much Should I Water my young Maple Tree? Needless to say I was disappointed. I planted slightly above ground level. They have flourished in my back yard. The timing, frequency and volume of water that is needed is dependent on the species and size of tree, the soil type (sand, loam, clay, silt), how well it drains, how long the tree has been planted and if the tree ��� We also went from cloudy and somewhat cool temps (for Houston at least) to a lot of sun and heat the past few weeks which may be a factor. Best advice w/respect to fertilizer is get a soil test before you do anything. you can see as much as 10-20 ft growth difference after 10 years between mulched and non mulched. that doesnt sound too high a price (just a little high). The holes should be about a foot deep and can be made with a metal rod or large screwdriver. There may be a little variation of the shade of color from year to year because of weather conditions, but red trees are never orange or gold. Not only that, it will get very hot in the summer and could get a bit dry so mulch will help A LOT. Needless to say, I went with Love Creek nursery because it had nice form and the owner was very nice person to talk to. nice purchase. They may be dark purple, deep red, bright red, pink, apricot, bright yellow, yellow orange, and red orange and some colors that may not have been described yet. Itruett: are the seedlings popping up on their own or are you planting them? They like a little bit of shade. If I had, I'm thinking my tree would be much larger than it is now. I use organic fertilizer and it has always worked very well for me. I have other maple called 'Fire Dragon' shantung maple and it sure grows faster and have nicer foliage. It can even be used as a hedge ��� space small trees about 8 feet apart and expect to trim them regularly to maintain height. I've uploaded a picture but they show it only in red. I think the best alternative is to just buy a small bag of Organic Alaskaî Dry Pure Fish Fertilizer 8-5-1 that I saw at Wal-Mart (or is it the 7-2-2? I have seen canyon maple effectively used as a solitary specimen tree or in a dense mass planting. The folks at Love Creek Nursery are really nice people. 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In fact, from our viewpoint, Bigtooth Maple is near the top of the list coming in at #4. I know there was mention of each tree being different but I was wondering if newguy's droopy tree ever perked up. I am amazed and realize that type of growth can't sustain itself for the whole growing season but WOW that is pretty impressive you have to admit. Step 1: say #contest in the comments. I have read through all of the question and answers about the big tooth maple . I put the trees in the ground last weekend and mixed in some Osmocote per instructions from Love Creek Nursery. For 5 gallon trees use ¼ cup. The Apple Store is now a well known Texas tourist destination. Your shutters don't add to the look, but if you like them keep them on the small windows only. This tree gets sun from sun-up to right around 5pm all year long. Composted sheep or cow manure is widely available and inexpensive. In a few years we have witnessed tremendous production of seeds. Everything is done organically. They can be used in almost any instance and have many benefits. Some might say they are a bit expensive for the size of the trees, but then again considerin how hard these trees are to find I think it was a bargain. Warm humid weather or unseasonable hot weather are adverse to good color and usually prevent colors from developing. Step 2: share my channel with 10 people. Your tree probably lost a lot of root feeders so your tree might not look best till next year. Most of the soils in the Hill Country and along the I 35 corridor are alkaline and low in nitrogen (N), but are not really deficient of phosphorus (P) or potassium (K). Too harsh because it gets very hot compared to the ones in the ground. He said that landscaper didn't know what he was talking about and that I needed to do a few things to really make it take off. Make sure the root flares are slightly exposed. Although it would be difficult to find it available, Bigtooth Maple can be planted through much of the central and southern states, from Iowa to Louisiana and coast to coast. So far my BTM has grown almost 19 inches. The trees have established very quickly. Another important factor in developing color in the fall is the location of the tree. How to Know How Much to Water a New Maple Tree. are either deciduous or evergreen specimens prized as shade trees for their foliage and form. I fertilized it in the fall and the spring with Treetone (Espoma product) and once again got 6 inches of growth this spring. I've used topsoil to build up a couple inches over the hole. In hind site, I should have known that grass and roses would compete with a big tooth maple; I just didn't realize how much. Thanks for everyone's planting advice last year and if I could figure out how to post pictures of the trees I would. Check with Cooperative Extension about soil test, the more different factors tested for the better. Both trees I planted are doing awesome ! Im thinking about going down to Love Creek myself and getting some BTM's. I noticed some said they had some seeds of the big tooth maple, would you like to trade or sale some? Overall your house is well proportioned including the width of the walkway and the size and shape of the bed in front of the big window. When I say branches keep in mind the trees are only 3.5 to 4 feet tall. A few months later I was at a local, privately owned nursery and noticed they had some big tooth maples. are deciduous trees. I will add mulch down the line when the trees get a bit older. Trees with excellent drainage, such as on the sides of hills, or on the face of bluffs will color earlier and more strongly than those in flat bottomland locations in the deeper soils. Best of luck with your project. 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